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Pub shows ban on smoking not to blame



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Published Date: 16 July 2008
During a week's holiday in February this year at Playa de las Americas, Tenerife, I visited three English pubs and an Irish one at least on four occasions.
All had live bands playing with outdoor displays encouraging people to enter.
The three English bars allowed smoking whilst it was not allowed in the Irish pub.
On each occasion the English pubs were half full whilst the Irish bar was packed every night.
I think this spells it out clearly.
Proper English pubs and bars in England have not suffered under the smoking ban.
Backstreet bars which attracted mainly smokers in the first place may have done.
The reason why pubs are empty and closing is obvious.
It is because of the outrageous price of drinks in pubs and cheap supermarket booze.
Dave King, address supplied

Cameras not main factor in safety
Over the last 50 years or so, motor manufacturers have spent billions of pounds in an effort to improve all the safety aspects of their vehicles.
As a result the brakes, steering, lighting, tyres, and even the exterior bodywork on a modern car, are unrecognisable compared to any older car.
All of this work by very clever
engineers was aimed at reducing
injuries to drivers, passengers and pedestrians.
Their work was so good and effective that we now have lower casualty figures than ever before. How soul-destroying it must be for these engineers, having done their job so well, for a politician in the shape of Jim Fitzpatrick, the Road Safety Minister, to claim credit for their work.
He recently said: "We've cut the number of people killed or seriously injured each year by more than a third since the mid 1990s."
It is also reported that the drop in Lancashire has coincided with the
increase in the number of speed
cameras.
I think whoever it was who said that meant to say "coincidence".
The Treasury would have felt the pinch, but all I can say is: Think how much better the figures would have been without the cameras.
Peter Brown, via email

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The full article contains 564 words and appears in Wigan Evening Post newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 16 July 2008 3:11 PM
  • Source: Wigan Evening Post
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DaveA,

Atherton 16/07/2008 17:18:49
Mr. King, I am in your debt for your in depth research in Tenerife. Sorry to nit pick but could it of been that the band at the Irish pub was better? The last time I looked the Med is quite warm and smoking outside is often a pleasure. So if a full Irish bar counts as two halves, then there were three halves that were smoking. So 3/2 v 2/2 = 50% more people are attracted to smoking venues.

Here are the closures for pubs in the last 3 years.

2005 106 pubs closed
2005 206 " "

Smoking ban.

2007 1700 pubs closed.

You should get a job at ASH.






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helend498,

Wigan 16/07/2008 23:10:43
I cannot agree with Mr King at all. I think you'd find that if we had the climate here of the Canary Islands that most people would be outside anyway!
The smoking ban is killing our pubs, and as for the social clubs in Wigan, they are in dire straits as a result of it. The elderly, in particular, do not wish to be thrown outside in the middle of a Wigan winter - they wouldn't mind it in the middle of a Canaries winter though!
Open your eyes and see what's happening in Wigan. We have an entirely different climate, economic, social and political set-up than the Canary Islands.
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tug f wilson,

nottingham 17/07/2008 16:34:22
Well Mr King you could not be more wrong,as already stated on another comment just look at the closures since the smoking ban was introduced,it is clear to all in the country just what damage has and is still being done to our Hospitality Industry because of the smoking ban,people in the country demand a change to the ban to give Landlords/Lady and club owners the choice,smoking or non smoking,then everyone could have the freedom 2 choose,who could complain about that?, Tug.
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celedrialjoy,

wigan 07/08/2008 09:42:19
Last time we went abroad and had a meal the bar and resteraunt owners were coming outside to us as we enjoyed our fags and dragging us back in telling us that we werent in England anymore and that they were a FREE country. (speaks volumes)
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celedrialjoy,

wigan 07/08/2008 12:38:15
Dear SIB;
Profits before well being of people, WELL on the news it has just been reported that the government are withdrawing four life saving cancer drugs from the NHS as they are to EXPENSIVE. So I think it is this so called government of dictators that are saying that.
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celedrialjoy,

wigan 12/08/2008 14:29:30
the cancer drugs they are withdrawing are not used to treat lung cancer they are mainly used for cancers of the Kidneys, if we have a drug that can prolong life and it is withdrawn puely because of expense then I for one would say that the government are putting money before the health and well being of people.
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SIB,

Wigan 25/08/2008 14:42:26
Why have all my comments been removed from this thread?
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